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Friday, December 26, 2008

Vita Nova: A New Life

Steal away, let's steal away; there's no reason left to stay. For me and you, let's start anew; and, darling, steal away.
Posted by Montag at 4:33 PM

6 comments:

Anna MR said...

I feel a need to say something here, for you said once about looking for a place, far away from everything and everywhere, and this certainly looks like one, Montag, and I'm wondering whether you really would, or indeed will, go and start anew.

Wouldn't it be lovely if it were possible to leave the tree growing inside the rooms on the left?

Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:29:00 PM
Montag said...

You are right about the trees. It would be enormous to bring them into the house as members of the family.

As far a starting anew, I do not think I have any choice in the matter. Nor do many of us.

There is a great change coming.
I believe we have all known this, we have merely choose different images and word and symbols to reate our awareness: some saw end of times, some saw nuclear armageddon, some despaired, some eschewed morality and entered into an orgy of greed, some waited for UFOs to save us, etc. etc.

We are slaves to our symbols, and that is not how it should be.

Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:16:00 PM
Anna MR said...

I have thought hard over what you say here - both on the great change and the slaves-to-symbols thing. I haven't come to any revelationary point I could make on either, right enough, but I wanted to come here and tell you I hadn't just shrugged off what you said.

For the sake of the children, all our children, I hope the change is great but not totally catastrophic.

Explain, please Montag, more closely what you mean by us being slaves to our symbols. I'm not rightly sure I understand.

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:07:00 PM
Montag said...

My own lack of understanding prompted my withdrawal recently: I had to figure out what I was saying!

What I mean now is not quite the same as what I was saying, oh, 6 months ago.

To attempt to be excruciatingly clear ( and this is hard for me! )
......
In the preceding comment,
I said that people were sensing the future.
I said some of them explained what they experienced by using imagery of end of times, some used images of nuclear war, etc., but many people were dimly aware of the coming storm.

To most people, symbols exist in the Present - art, language - and the Past - memory.
To me, they exist somewhat in the Present, but mostly in the Past and the Future...and this conundrum is what I have to explain.

We sort of all understand how we may be "slaves" to Memory of the Past...like guilt.
I believe, however, that we also cast forward into the Future and begin to create the monsters which will ultimately harm us...
but we may also begin to create the paradise which will save us.

...........

"shrugged off..."?!
I must admit that being "shrugged off" is not a new experience to me.
Most people who know me are ready and prepared to avoid situations which may be interpreted as an invitation to dialogue.

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:41:00 AM
Anna MR said...

Thank you for taking the time and making the excruciating effort - for now I do see what you mean, and yes I do agree, we do create our own monsters and then they eat us, and the world, to boot. To some degree, at any rate - although I cannot abide the simplistic teachings of just "thinking things better" ("every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better" - oh dear. Sorry, Montag, if you hold that dear, for it makes me go "pass me the bucket, please").

I'm going to say something soppy-silly, okay? Which those who live under real duress, under really horrific circumstances, would probably (and deservedly) wish to whack me in the face for, with a plank of wood (if I was lucky and they were feeling charitable). But the way I see it, the only hope for us is to try and learn to love more. Love more and harder, if you like. I realise I'm now being pass-me-the-bucket simplistic, but I see no other way.

In any case, I'm in Happy New Year land already, Montag, and wish you the best things only for 2009. You are one of the good guys.

x

Wednesday, December 31, 2008 6:23:00 PM
Montag said...

Yeah...it is a bit more compplex for conscious beings...at least it seems to me:
Not only do we create our own monsters, but we may become our own monsters.

I know what you mean about simplistic teachings. It occurred to me as I was writing to you, and I felt the same way.
HOWEVER,
that very feeling of disgust may or may not be a prison. In a sense, as I react to it in a predictable manner of being nauseated, I am being a "slave" to it and letting it order my present and future.

I think that "loyalty to friends" is a notion I would be well enslaved to, and I may act with unthinking loyalty.

I am not so sure about "being nauseated at simplistic teachings". The disgust we feel may be saving us from some nonsense, but it may also be hiding something of value from us - like a trickster.

Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:17:00 AM

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